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dosborn81
Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:59:52 PM

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Hey guys, check this out. I just picked one up today and it is awesome!!

If Hawk will show me how to load pictures on here I will show it off........

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Here is a link for now.

http://www.sigsauer.com/SigStore/ShowProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=26&productid=285


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Hawk
Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:21:32 PM

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You have to post first then go back and then go back and add an attachment, or if the image is hosted somewhere else, you can select the image button when you post and insert the link between the IMG tags. Give a try and let me know.
dosborn81
Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:02:01 AM

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Thanks Hawk!!

The picture quality is poor but it gets the idea across.

I will have some free time tonight so I think I will start up a gallery now that I half way know what I am doing here.

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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:25:37 AM

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Looks good. A little big for my taste though. Have you used the sight at the range yet?
dosborn81
Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:01:49 AM

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Not yet. I will try to get it out this weekend. I hope it works well because when I use the fixed sights I have to place the front sight so high that the top edge of the end of the frame is level with the top of the rear sights. I have been working around it for now but it is irritating.

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Michaelrm
Posted: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:13:53 PM
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I have the same light and have just contacted Sig asking them to repair/replace after one trip to the range.

I bought it a couple of months ago thinking a light on the p250 would be cool seen as though it is the nightstand gun for my wife and I. The laser/light combo seemed like a nice bonus and the additional strobe light sounded interesting. Initially everything worked just fine on when installed and the strobe feature proved to be very cool. The laser will be good at the range for it lets a new shooter realize how much they are moving around the target when they think they are rock solid. Overall, the regular flashlight was the most important thing and it worked great when exploring a bump in the night.

So, wife and I took it to the range yesterday to test it out and this happened:

1. The clamping/nut feature of the attachment broke in half after 5 rounds. The light stayed on the gun, but it was a little looser thatn before and you couldn't rely on the laser to hit the same point of impact with the subtle shifting that was going on.

2. After shooting another 20+ rounds, the selector button for the strobe would no longer activate the strobe.

3. Original battery that came in the unit was dead once we got to the range. It had been in the gun for 5-6 weeks with a few minutes of use on it. Initially I thought that maybe I left it on somehow (????), but after the above problems I don't know

So, right now the light still works and the unit stays attached to the gun. Hopefully Sig will do right by me with this and i'll have a new or repaired unit. I hope that I got the only bad one out there for the quality of my unit leaves a lot to be desiredThumbDown
Michaelrm
Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 3:41:08 PM
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Quick update:

I received an email from Sig today telling me that they will replace the light immediately. They included a UPS shipping label in the email and stated that a new light will be sent out once they receive the broken one. +1 for great customer service at this point, lets hope that the new light is a bit more durable than the last <finger crossed>
dosborn81
Posted: Monday, August 24, 2009 4:28:49 PM

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I have not had any of those problems thankfully. I have been hearing a few have two lasers projecting light (vs. one) but that has been the only problem I have heard about.

I did get to the range with mine and had no problems. The only thing I didn't like was after about 25-30 rounds the flash from the shots left a little powder burn on the top of the light that sticks out just past the end of the barrel.

Sig has great CS and I am sure they will make it right.

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Michaelrm
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:47:19 AM
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I am optimistic that a new light will be better. I really liked the unit, and my wife found it comforting which is great. She really likes the P250c, So I keep it set up for her with a short trigger and small frame. The light/laser combo just added to that. I'm looking forward to the sub-compact kits so that i can do some carry work with it. I'm hopeful that it will be more concealable that a G26, but i haven't seen one to compare them yet???
dosborn81
Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:59:13 PM

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Like I said before, Sig will make it right. Refund or replace.

It will be hard to beat the cc of the G26. Next to that is the baby XD. You could drop about $800 and get a Kahr PM9.

I plan on getting the Sub Compact frame/slide for my P250 when they hit the street.


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Michaelrm
Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:23:02 PM
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Michaelrm wrote:
I am optimistic that a new light will be better. I really liked the unit, and my wife found it comforting which is great. She really likes the P250c, So I keep it set up for her with a short trigger and small frame. The light/laser combo just added to that. I'm looking forward to the sub-compact kits so that i can do some carry work with it. I'm hopeful that it will be more concealable that a G26, but i haven't seen one to compare them yet???


Received my new light today! Sent the bad one to Sig on Tuesday, had the new one waiting for me on the doorstep on Thursday. Excellent service in regards to speed w/o a doubt. The new light is indeed brand new and came with replacement parts for the clamping feature (not sure if that is for everyone or just mine???) Now all i need to do is test it again...

Thimbs up for great customer serviceThumbsUp
dosborn81
Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:31:40 PM

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Good news!!

Please keep us updated.ThumpUp

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rah45
Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:34:16 PM

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I have the other tactical light offered by Sig, I think it's the STL-100? I am right-handed, and if I put the light on the left side of the P250, my left thumb is right behind the button. This offers me the opportunity to quickly turn on/off or manually "strobe" without ever having to remove my support hand from the firing position. It looks like you can reach the buttons on the STL-900 with your off-hand trigger/middle finger, but I'm not sure exactly how comfortable that would be or if it would throw off your aim more than mine does.

Personally, and I have zero experience when I say this, I don't believe that I would want to get a laser for myself. It continuously pinpoints your exact location and doesn't seem to offer much more advantages than manually aiming. Lights reveal your position too, but they can be flashed momentarily to give you a quick view of the room or in an attempt to ruin your opponent's nightvision.

Oh, and the STL-100 is actually in two parts, the part that attaches to the P250 and holds the flashlight and the flashlight itself. It comes with two cloth carrying cases that are made to fit onto a belt. I like that idea, since I know that if I will be out for an extended period of time, I can easily tote around my tactical light and have the option to attach it in seconds if the need arises and it has become dark. I don't know if the STL-900 has a carry case or if there are many holsters made that will accomodate the P250 with it on. Also, I have used the STL-100's flashlight constantly just in a standard, everyday role. It's great having a light that powerful around.

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rah45
Posted: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:42:09 AM

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These are some pics that I took to show what I'm saying to you. It's hard to show exactly, since only one hand could hold the P250, but hopefully you can see that on the inside, the supporting hand's thumb can, without much thought or effort, either flash the light or turn it on. On the outside, the actual trigger finger can be used, with a little stretching, to turn it on, but it cannot easily flash in that position. The downsides to this for me is that 1) I don't want to remove my finger from the trigger during a confrontation, and 2) if the light is put on the inside of the firearm for best use, it slightly detracts from your sight since you just added an obstacle to your pistol that you cannot see through. However, after a little while of putting it on/off, or just playing with it a bit (safely, of course!), you get used to it.

I also took a couple of pics with my equipment, both to show everyone who considers getting anything what the size of the equipment is compared to one another. In one of the photographs, I broke down the STL-100 into its two component parts, the attachment and the light. I put these parts next to their belt holders, next to Ben Franklin (no, I'm not rich; I just happen to temporarily own Ben), to give you an idea of their size. Hopefully these will answer any questions anyone has and has sparked interest where there may have been none before.

I am curious as to how easy it is to activate the laser/light, such as if you must momentarily abandon your shooting position in order to push a button. I would also like to know if it comes with any belt holders, like the STL-100 does.

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rah45
Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:20:41 PM

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Hey dosborn and michael, come back and tell more about the STL-900. Does it feel pretty heavy on the pistol? Does it come with a belt holder? Michael, did you take yours back to the range? If so, how did it do?

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dosborn81
Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:05:37 AM

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rah45 wrote:
Hey dosborn and michael, come back and tell more about the STL-900. Does it feel pretty heavy on the pistol? Does it come with a belt holder? Michael, did you take yours back to the range? If so, how did it do?


I don't notice a huge difference in the added weight but you can tell it's there. Mine did not come with a belt holder. I think it would be easier to take on and off than the 100 but I don't have the 100 to test. What I do like about the 900 is that you don't have to tighten it down all the way because it has the spring to keep it tight enough and the rail to keep it in place. Also, when you take it on and off it goes right back where it was. I think it would also be just as easy to turn on as the 100 too.

I think the 100 is more less a flashlight that they made mounts for where the 900 is specificly designed to mount to a gun. Can anybody confirm this??



rah45, what type of battery does the 100 take??

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rah45
Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:32:47 AM

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The 100 takes a standard AA battery. I use an alkaline. Regarding attachment, there is no tightening or adjusting that needs to be done. It is made to click into the rail, which holds it perfectly.The only delay would be if you currently had the light and it's rail attachment separated, such as if you were just carrying it with you. However, even reattaching them only takes one second, as it is a click-lock type holder. The light is very, very bright, but I have only used the alkaline batteries for it so I don't know what the difference, if any, there may be between it and regular batteries. I dob't think there should be.

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Michaelrm
Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:33:00 PM
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rah45 wrote:
Hey dosborn and michael, come back and tell more about the STL-900. Does it feel pretty heavy on the pistol? Does it come with a belt holder? Michael, did you take yours back to the range? If so, how did it do?


Nope, haven't been back to the range yet (have spent a lot of time on the road lately). The weight of the light is no biggie, but there's no mistaking that it is there. Haven't looked for a holster for it with the lite, but I would think it would be easier to find then one for the side lite?
rah45
Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:14:43 PM

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Well, it would be impossible to get one for the side light, which is probably why they just automatically included the belt holders for the light and the mount. Like I said before, it only takes a second to put them together, and another to fit it onto the pistol.

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Michaelrm
Posted: Friday, September 18, 2009 5:27:18 PM
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rah45 wrote:
Well, it would be impossible to get one for the side light, which is probably why they just automatically included the belt holders for the light and the mount. Like I said before, it only takes a second to put them together, and another to fit it onto the pistol.


One of the things that i plan on checking out when I get back to the range is the "quick" release/attach aspect of the light. The latching mechanism is spring activated and you can pop the light on and off of the gun pretty quickly. You then have the option of tightening the thumbscrew on the mech. or leave it loose. Not sure if it will stay on under fire with spring pressure alone; although I think my original lights mech. may have broken from being over-torqued along with the effect of firing the gun. If it stays on with spring pressure easily enough it would be as quick to slide the light on as it is to load a mag into the grip...
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