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#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:44:31 AM(UTC)
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I am normally a lurker, but today I wanted to post my initial impressions of my new P250C. WARNING: These are my opinions and they do not express or portray the feelings of anyone else.

Today I became the proud owner of a new Sig Sauer P250C two-tone chambered in 40S&W. I want to say thank you to Jerry Brown at Ordnance Outsellers for his great customer service and his time and patience dealing with me (I am not an easy person to please or deal with at times……just ask my wife). Jerry went out of his way to make sure I got everything I needed. I am a Deputy Sheriff, so Jerry made sure I got three magazines instead of the single magazine which I know is an issue for many people right now. Jerry is the type of person and businessman that will not carry something for the sake of carrying it just to get business. He is a man of convictions. I can’t say enough good things about Jerry and Ordnance Outsellers and I would recommend him to anyone.

Ok, now to the nitty gritty. These are my subjective opinions and feelings so take it for what it is worth. When I got home I took a few minutes to evaluate the pistol based upon what I saw and felt. The grip module is size medium in the compact configuration. It felt like my P228 in my hand. That is a good start. The spring tension of the recoil spring was very strong, even stronger than my Glock Model 22 and a Heckler & Koch USP that I used to own. The magazine dropped free. As with any Tupperware pistol (my term for any polymer framed pistol) the magazine well sounds really hollow. The fit and finish of the metal parts was good and I did not really see or find any tooling marks or blemishes. The polymer frame looked to be free of any defect or crack. The rifling in the barrel was clear and crisp and I did not see any anomalies in the barrel. The recoil spring was the painted blue variety and I do not know about you, but I like the Sig Sauer braided recoil springs, but I am odd that way. The recoil rod was the Sig Sauer typical hollow tube. The firing pin release was a small push button at the rear of the slide and it did not take much effort to depress it. In comparison, the firing pin block on my P228 went the full width of the slide and takes more effort to depress. The firing pin pushed forward like it was supposed to after I depressed the firing pin block. Toothpicks come in handy for this and that was all I had at my disposal at the time. Then, following the directions in the owner’s manual, I took the fire control/trigger control unit out of the frame. The frame felt really hollow at tat point. The trigger was a little gritty and the extractor was dirty I am assuming from the test rounds at the factory. The pistol came very well lubed and also had a sample of TW25B grease in the case with it. That is my new lubricant for all my pistols now. Uniformity works for me (I am in Law Enforcement and keeping it simple is key). The night sights are very bright and the typical three green dots. When I was examining the sights, it looks as though the rear sights are an integral unit with the firing pin stop. If I am wrong, someone please correct me. If you are familiar with a M1911, you depress the firing pin and slide the firing pin stop out of the slide. In the case of the P250, it looks as though the rear sights/firing pin stop are a press in unit that press in from the top. Less parts to be fitted and to deal with and also saves time and money I am assuming. I reassembled the pistol, placed it back in its plastic bag, and put everything back in the case until I do a thorough cleaning and lubing before range day. Over all I am pleased with the pistol.

I am happy with my purchase. The P250 is to pistols like the AR-15 is to rifles. It has something for everyone once they can get all components to the market place. You can tell that the P250 is a Sig and where it draws its design features come from. Its lineage is very apparent. But, by the same token, it is very different from the Sig P210, the classic series and the SigPro 2009/2340 & 2022. Comparing the P250 to its family members is like comparing apples to oranges. Even the SigPro series was treated as an outcast by many. The SigPro was what I was looking for until I stumbled onto the P250. Everyone has a different opinion and I do not expect everyone to agree with mine. I hope the P250 lives up to my expectations, but for now the jury is still out. It does not look glamorous, glitzy, posh, or any other BBQ gun analogy. The P250 is not a status symbol pistol either. It is designed to be a military and law enforcement pistol with combat accuracy to be able to hit minute of felon out to 25 yards or 25 meters. If you want status or something to show off, go get yourself a high end M1911 that costs between $2000-$3000 or a Korth revolver for $5000. To me, it is not case of keeping up with the Jones’. I just want to enjoy myself and enjoy my pistols because I am a pistol junkie. This is my $0.02. Be safe and take care everyone.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:35:02 PM(UTC)
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Congrats on the purchase!! Keep us informed. You say the recoil spring is blued. Mine is not and looks to be bare metal. Can you post a pic?
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#3 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:15:15 AM(UTC)
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Sorry for the confusion Hawk. Let me clarify. The recoil spring is painted a light blue color half way down its length from the barrel lugs mid way down and the rest of the distance is bare metal color. I saw reference to the "blue recoil spring" on Sig Forum, so I made sure to mention it in my review.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:11:41 AM(UTC)
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nice write up. thanks.
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#5 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2010 5:03:22 AM(UTC)
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Nice write up Tackleberry. It is nice to hear unbiased opinions from law enforcement personnel who have purchased the same gun that I chose for my daily carry. Thank you for your service by the way!
I cannot wait to hear how your range time goes. Did yours come with the new style grip or the old style grip (new grip has a true M1913 “Picatinny” rail)? I purchased mine in early December 09 and it has the old style grip and a braided recoil spring.

I have put approximately 200 rounds through mine. I can say for sure that I need practice with the DAO trigger. I am spot on accurate with my wife’s Smith & Wesson M&P 9 compact and my friends Glock 22, but I am less than stellar with my P250. I have always heard about Sig accuracy, but I have not managed to meet my own expectations…yet. I will post my issue in the Issues - .40 thread.
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#6 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2010 7:27:12 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the writeup! Yes the rear sight also houses the firing pin plunger/safety stop.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:26:14 PM(UTC)
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New to the site and admit I have not read every forum. Here's my dilemma, I ordered a P250 (.40 cal) nearly a month ago. My gun dealer "says" the gun I ordered should be available after the 1st of the year according to Sig. He also says he's been waiting for 6 months for other guns from Sig and they keep telling him it will be out next month. He's a straight shooter and a reputable dealer, haven't heard a bad word to suggest he's lying. Anyone heard of this back logs at Sig?
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:32:44 PM(UTC)
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HolePusher wrote:
New to the site and admit I have not read every forum. Here's my dilemma, I ordered a P250 (.40 cal) nearly a month ago. My gun dealer "says" the gun I ordered should be available after the 1st of the year according to Sig. He also says he's been waiting for 6 months for other guns from Sig and they keep telling him it will be out next month. He's a straight shooter and a reputable dealer, haven't heard a bad word to suggest he's lying. Anyone heard of this back logs at Sig?


Yes, it's SHOT show right now, and all the gun manufacturers are slammed, plus Sig has been backed up for some time. The delay sounds frustrating, but I think your dealer is being square with you. Hopefully, Sig will get it together and catch up with getting the 250s out soon with all the kits now that the buying frenzy sparked by Obama's election is dieing down!
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#9 Posted : Friday, January 07, 2011 11:06:22 AM(UTC)
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I ordered mine 12/21 and it was delivered 12/23. No problems with any back orders. Confused
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#10 Posted : Friday, January 07, 2011 5:08:50 PM(UTC)
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I bought my 45 compact from a local guy in East Tennessee at a gun show, and he had about 8-10 of each caliber available in compact versions. I have seen other dealers at the Knoxville gunshow pushing these as well for about the same price of $399. When I ordered my 2 exchange kits from Sig, I got my .357 sub-c kit in a matter of days, but I waited about 10 days before my .40 sub-c kit arrived.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:46:15 PM(UTC)
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I bought a full size p250 .40 caliber a couple of days ago and finally I got to the range today and boy was that a sweet shot. I only fired 70 rounds through it but let me tell you, I'm a happy camper. Mine was manufactured in December 2010 and probably all the bugs that this model originally came with were taken care of, but it is and most importantly, it feels like a sig. I used to own a beretta 92fs (9mm)and even though is not polycarbonate and surely is a great and accurate gun, the recoil was much stronger on that one than on this one, being a .40 caliber.
Field stripping this gun is just super easy, and the fact that you can exchange calibers is just a plus. For $389 including shipping, it makes it even better.
When started shooting, I noticed the a little pull downwards, but it was actually me getting used to the DOA trigger (much better and smoother than my .38 Taurus 2" revolver) and any other double action handgun I've shot before, but after ten rounds, and at forty ft. from the target, the grouping was outstanding.
I was using "blazer" ammo and it ate 'em all.!
Hope to come back here with more good news very soon....

Important note...This is not a top of the line sig but it's much more that you'd expect for the money and as good as you'd expect from Sig Sauer.

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#12 Posted : Monday, January 31, 2011 4:34:12 PM(UTC)
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Welcome to the forum male2205! That was an excellent report. It always good to hear from another happy P250 owner. Keep us posted with your future trips to the range.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:51:20 PM(UTC)
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I purchased a P250c 9mm a couple of weeks ago. Overall I am very happy with it, but I have a few questions maybe someone here can answer. A little Background - I bought it at academy because of their price $389.00 and luckily I didn't rely on their information because they told me a couple of things that were incorrect. first, they told me this one did Not have night Sights on it and they also said this particular one did not have the ability to change calibers. After talking with the factory about ordering more magazines (which happen to be out of stock and on Back Order ), they told me that ALL P250's are capable of changing calibers with no exceptions.
I took it up to GT distributers to see about getting night sights put on it (thinking they might be easier to see) and they told me it already has Night Sights on it, sure enought I went into a dark room and they glowed!

does anyone else have the issue with the sights being hard to see in the day? Any recommendations on making it better would be appreciated.

Also, I have now fired about 400 rounds through it and the Slide has only locked back in place Twice in that whole time. I have cleaned the gun thoroughly 3 times and added a little gun oil to the slide. Is this something that will go away as it gets "Broken in" ?? the first 100 rounds were the Monarch (academy's brand) of 9mm Luger brass and that left the insides filthy. then next 150 were a much better ammo (Sellier & bellot) and today I picked up a case of Speer Lawmen and shot about 3 boxes. all of these were 115 grain. originally I thought it might be the lousy ammo, but it hasn't gotten any better. has anyone else seen this problem?

the only other question I would have is if anyone has had theirs worked on to lower the Trigger Pull. I didn't realize that 5 1/2 - 6/12 lb was a very hard trigger until I tried several other weapons at a private range I go to and their triggers were so easy to pull it was almost like a toy.

I am new to the world of semi-automatic handguns and think that I made the right choice, none of these issues is major and they can be taken care of easily.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2011 6:06:39 PM(UTC)
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sparty1984 wrote:

I didn't realize that 5 1/2 - 6/12 lb was a very hard trigger until I tried several other weapons at a private range I go to and their triggers were so easy to pull it was almost like a toy.


Unless you've been shooting Glocks with 3-pound triggers, 6 pounds isn't all that heavy. What you're probably experiencing is the very long trigger pull of the P250. It takes some getting used to.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:14:42 AM(UTC)
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sparty1984 wrote:
I purchased a P250c 9mm a couple of weeks ago. Overall I am very happy with it, but I have a few questions maybe someone here can answer. A little Background - I bought it at academy because of their price $389.00 and luckily I didn't rely on their information because they told me a couple of things that were incorrect. first, they told me this one did Not have night Sights on it and they also said this particular one did not have the ability to change calibers. After talking with the factory about ordering more magazines (which happen to be out of stock and on Back Order ), they told me that ALL P250's are capable of changing calibers with no exceptions.
I took it up to GT distributers to see about getting night sights put on it (thinking they might be easier to see) and they told me it already has Night Sights on it, sure enought I went into a dark room and they glowed!

does anyone else have the issue with the sights being hard to see in the day? Any recommendations on making it better would be appreciated.

Also, I have now fired about 400 rounds through it and the Slide has only locked back in place Twice in that whole time. I have cleaned the gun thoroughly 3 times and added a little gun oil to the slide. Is this something that will go away as it gets "Broken in" ?? the first 100 rounds were the Monarch (academy's brand) of 9mm Luger brass and that left the insides filthy. then next 150 were a much better ammo (Sellier & bellot) and today I picked up a case of Speer Lawmen and shot about 3 boxes. all of these were 115 grain. originally I thought it might be the lousy ammo, but it hasn't gotten any better. has anyone else seen this problem?

the only other question I would have is if anyone has had theirs worked on to lower the Trigger Pull. I didn't realize that 5 1/2 - 6/12 lb was a very hard trigger until I tried several other weapons at a private range I go to and their triggers were so easy to pull it was almost like a toy.

I am new to the world of semi-automatic handguns and think that I made the right choice, none of these issues is major and they can be taken care of easily.
BigGrin Crying Crying Crying


I'll try and answer some of your questions to the best of my knowledge. My responses are assuming your experience with "bottom feeders" is limited, if this is incorrect I apologize.

-Night sights (in this case 3 dot) will look like normal 3 dot sights in the daytime or in good to fair indoor lighting. This is completely normal, the only time you can see them glowing is in low light and darkness.

-The slide not locking back could be two potential problems. The most common reason for this (especially with sigs) is that your strong hand thumb is pushing down on the slide release during firing. In this case the magazine follower cannot put the slide release up and cause the slide to go into slidelock. The fix for this is of course a different firing grip. Also be careful not to push up on the slide lock while firing as this will cause a stoppage from the slide catching and locking back with ammo in the magazine. The key point is just to keep fingers away from this lever while firing.

If your grip is not the issue it is likely that you will need to investigate the slidelock or magazines and contact sig to fix it. If it consistently does it with one mag and not another it's the mags. If it does it with all mags then it's likely the the slidestop.

-I don't believe you'll be able to lower the trigger pull weight to much without getting light strikes. However in time the trigger will smooth out more but the pull weight should remain relatively consistent.
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#16 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 7:08:49 PM(UTC)
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Thank You for the reply.

I had called customer support to tell them about the Slide problem and apparently this is a common issue and it has to do with the suppliers that make the Magazines (this is the reason they are all on back order). he told me they expected to have them in Early in March and they will replace it for me.

I did double-checked based on your suggestion, but the grip I use doesn't interfere with the Slide.

I am pretty new to this Site and not sure what the reference to "bottom feeders" is??

Thanx again,
Daryl
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#17 Posted : Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:17:13 AM(UTC)
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Thank You for the reply.

I had called customer support to tell them about the Slide problem and apparently this is a common issue and it has to do with the suppliers that make the Magazines (this is the reason they are all on back order). he told me they expected to have them in Early in March and they will replace it for me.

I did double-checked based on your suggestion, but the grip I use doesn't interfere with the Slide.

I am pretty new to this Site and not sure what the reference to "bottom feeders" is??

Thanx again,
Daryl


Glad to hear you got a solution to your problem.

"bottom feeder" is a term I sometimes use for a semiauto magazine fed pistol as of course they feed from underneath. Usually it is used by revolver shooters towards semi autos, but I this case I just find it an amusing term so I use it whenever I can.
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#18 Posted : Sunday, February 27, 2011 5:24:05 PM(UTC)
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fulleffect1911 wrote:

Glad to hear you got a solution to your problem.

"bottom feeder" is a term I sometimes use for a semiauto magazine fed pistol as of course they feed from underneath. Usually it is used by revolver shooters towards semi autos, but I this case I just find it an amusing term so I use it whenever I can.


Understood..

Thanx again for the replys
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